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Hemel Market Structure Petition
Wednesday, 26 November 2008
Email to Andrew Williams Leader??? of Dacorum Council
To: Andrew.Williams@dacorum.gov.uk Subject: Re:Hemel Hempstead Market structure to be demolished |
Hello Mr Williams ,
I understand that you are going to demolish Hemel Hempstead Market structure because of the severe problems detailed in your email , severe , you are having a laugh , or you are so simple you shouldn't be in your council job ,
"we have planning to remove the existing structure for a number of reasons the first being the problems of anti social behaviour occurring at the site which has an effect on the residents living nearby. The police can deal with but it is not possible for them to be there constantly and our CCTV cannot see under the canopies to spot any problems. Secondly the structure is looking tatty and as it will be sometime before work begins on the new development this will only get worse and we do hope by clearing the site we will be able to encourage other use whilst the site is awaiting redevelopment"
1) anti social behaviour , I have been told today that as result of ASBOS this has decreased significantly
2) CCTV cannot be seen under the canopy , --you cannot be serious ! put a camera under the canopy , don't demolish a structure that cost £1.5M for the cots of a camera !
3) the market looks tatty --- only because you and your council don't spend any money on maintenance
WHAT IS THE REAL REASON TO DEMOLISH A VIABLE STRUCTURE THAT COULD EARN REVENUE FOR THE COUNCIL , WE SHOULD BE TOLD
No Consultation has been been undertaken my your mediocre council , and no effort has been made to find alternative uses for the structure all you want to do is knock it down like the Pavilion . and build something else when in 2020 ?
As a conservative council you should be promulgating conservative values , antisocial behaviour , lock 'em up , don't demolish, support entrepreneurial activity , the Wednesday Market traders are not on the dole , they pay your rates and taxes!!
Hundreds of people signed a petition today today to ask you to think again , surprisingly , 70% of these people were from outside Hemel !! They come to Hemel on a Wednesday for the Market and they surprise , surprise go off into the town to visit cafes , Poundland , Gregs etc etc , that's probably 1,000+ people on a Wednesday come to visit the Market , that's , 50,000+ people a year , No Wednesday Market , No visitors they won't leave Watford to visit Hemel when they have the same shops in their own town , you will effectively be reducing the income for your towns traders
YOU NEED TO THINK AGAIN
I understand that you are going to demolish Hemel Hempstead Market structure because of the severe problems detailed in your email , severe , you are having a laugh , or you are so simple you shouldn't be in your council job ,
"we have planning to remove the existing structure for a number of reasons the first being the problems of anti social behaviour occurring at the site which has an effect on the residents living nearby. The police can deal with but it is not possible for them to be there constantly and our CCTV cannot see under the canopies to spot any problems. Secondly the structure is looking tatty and as it will be sometime before work begins on the new development this will only get worse and we do hope by clearing the site we will be able to encourage other use whilst the site is awaiting redevelopment"
1) anti social behaviour , I have been told today that as result of ASBOS this has decreased significantly
2) CCTV cannot be seen under the canopy , --you cannot be serious ! put a camera under the canopy , don't demolish a structure that cost £1.5M for the cots of a camera !
3) the market looks tatty --- only because you and your council don't spend any money on maintenance
WHAT IS THE REAL REASON TO DEMOLISH A VIABLE STRUCTURE THAT COULD EARN REVENUE FOR THE COUNCIL , WE SHOULD BE TOLD
No Consultation has been been undertaken my your mediocre council , and no effort has been made to find alternative uses for the structure all you want to do is knock it down like the Pavilion . and build something else when in 2020 ?
As a conservative council you should be promulgating conservative values , antisocial behaviour , lock 'em up , don't demolish, support entrepreneurial activity , the Wednesday Market traders are not on the dole , they pay your rates and taxes!!
Hundreds of people signed a petition today today to ask you to think again , surprisingly , 70% of these people were from outside Hemel !! They come to Hemel on a Wednesday for the Market and they surprise , surprise go off into the town to visit cafes , Poundland , Gregs etc etc , that's probably 1,000+ people on a Wednesday come to visit the Market , that's , 50,000+ people a year , No Wednesday Market , No visitors they won't leave Watford to visit Hemel when they have the same shops in their own town , you will effectively be reducing the income for your towns traders
YOU NEED TO THINK AGAIN
Thursday, 6 November 2008
Hemel do you live HERE!!! A residents view .
Yes i live here what do you want me to say about Hemel, Hospital dirty
and falling to bits going in there is almost certain you will come out
with more than you went in with if you do not exit in a box. Schools
are being amalgamated how long before closures. The industrial estate is
a complete farce nearly every factory is to let, the industry that used
to be there is long gone no one makes anything any more of course this
was compounded by Buncefield blowing up another shambles with residents
whose houses and workplaces were destroyed still have not being paid.
the roads don't make me laugh I am sure the council have shares in the
garages,the potholes are huge no matter what estate you visit you need
a 4x4 or even a tank .the council aided by the la la land occupents
the labour government have not been near the roads only interested in
repairing the pavements when they (repaired)????? Galley hill i think
the contractors ran out of tarmac they put strips of it at intervals so
you go bump bump bump its like having mini speed humps ah theres a bone
of contention some are so high the car exhausts are having to be
replaced at alarming short intervals god help somone with a bad back
still we should all ride bikes or walk i forgot what about the disabled
the inferm and the old?
still they dont matter close all their post offices and put the the
one you do leave upstairs in smiths that will teach them. market ha ha
ha what a joke that is , the councils policy build a market fit for
the purpose run it down , move the market and scatter it all over the
middle of town have stalls stuck anywhere they can got to keep those (
uncouth ) market traiders away from each other, leave the old market
that was built especialy for the purpose let the riff raff of Hemel
destroy it leave the antique market running on a wednesday they do not
matter if they catch some illness from the filth and pidgeon droppings
promise to clean it up who can we get some cheap contractors that will
go round with a bit of newspape, boast how you have had it cleaned when
the traders complain ,devise a plan to close it down, "er how can we do
this? " I know blaim the the riff raff for their bad habits that will
do it.. there's more but i am getting to depressed yes i live in hemel
hempstead why do you ask
Hemel Market to be demolished !!
So it's confirmed , that the Hemel Hempstead Market structure is going to be "Pavilionised " see emails below , from Cllr Andrew Williams Leader DBC ,
Dear Sir
The clearance of the existing market site will not be done for some weeks/months and in the meantime we are looking at the Wednesday market which I would like to see continue, at this stage it is not certain in what form that might be but it is being looked at.
Once we have a possible solution we will of course advice stallholders and I am happy to drop you a note at that time.
Regards
Andrew Williams
What a short sighted decision , demolish the market structure to stop antisocial behavior !! And all that will be left will, be an open space for the next twenty years as the council's 2020 vision must be in total tatters , with the economic downturn who would want to build more shops or flats at this time .
The open market place will be used for events !! Certainly not for the Wednesday bric a brac market , or any event which would survive the vagaries of the British climate . Note that the Pavillion which was demolished in 2002 to be rebuilt by 2006 is still a grassy knoll , so there is nowhere to hold concerts or Christmas Carols or anything .
This council is appallingly short sighted , an opportunity to reuse the structure for many uses stares one in the face , all that is needed is a small capital outlay on securing the structure and renovation .
- The site is a natural "amphitheater" as it slopes from east to West by several feet .
- Enclosing the whole market with low cost shop type shutters eliminates the anti social behaviour problem ,
- Removing the existing metal stalls and their surrounding structure opens up much of the inside area . wooden trestle table type stalls can be used for the wednesday market , and what else , a monthly indoor Antique Fair? craft Fair ? Anything fair?
- Removing some of the inside large supports looks eminently feasible to me , but would need confirmation by a structural engineer , this would open up more viewable and visible space .
- Once the inside is opened up , a removable stage could be used at the West end and the area filled with stackable chairs , who knows you may even be able to get a Philharmonic Orchestra into the town .
- This space could be used by the council to generate substantial revenue over the next twenty years with only a small amount of cost and trouble .
BUT they won't do anything just "Pavilionise" It , it doesn't bode well for the next Conservative government if they are all like Dacorum Borough councillors
Still I guess that Dacorum voters get what they deserve as none of them seem interested in their main town what a shame !!
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: Hemel mkt
Dear Sir
The clearance of the existing market site will not be done for some weeks/months and in the meantime we are looking at the Wednesday market which I would like to see continue, at this stage it is not certain in what form that might be but it is being looked at.
Once we have a possible solution we will of course advice stallholders and I am happy to drop you a note at that time.
Regards
Andrew Williams
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:09 PM
Dear Sir
Thank you for your email regarding the Hemel market, we have planning to remove the existing structure for a number of reasons the first being the problems of anti social behaviour occurring at the site which has an effect on the residents living nearby. The police can deal with but it is not possible for them to be there constantly and our CCTV cannot see under the canopies to spot any problems. Secondly the structure is looking tatty and as it will be sometime before work begins on the new development this will only get worse and we do hope by clearing the site we will be able to encourage other use whilst the site is awaiting redevelopment.
Yours sincerely
Cllr Andrew Williams
Leader DBC
Subject: Re: Hemel mkt
Dear Sir
Thank you for your email regarding the Hemel market, we have planning to remove the existing structure for a number of reasons the first being the problems of anti social behaviour occurring at the site which has an effect on the residents living nearby. The police can deal with but it is not possible for them to be there constantly and our CCTV cannot see under the canopies to spot any problems. Secondly the structure is looking tatty and as it will be sometime before work begins on the new development this will only get worse and we do hope by clearing the site we will be able to encourage other use whilst the site is awaiting redevelopment.
Yours sincerely
Cllr Andrew Williams
Leader DBC
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